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    Thumbs up What a Brilliant Idea!

    I certainly am going to do this from now on!

    E-Mail Tracker Programs – very interesting and a must read!

    Supposedly, the man that sent this information is a computer tech. Supposedly, he spends a lot of time clearing the junk off computers for people and listens to complaints about speed. All forwards are not bad, just some. Be sure you read the very last paragraph.

    Supposedly, he wrote:
    By now, I suspect everyone is familiar with snopes.Com and/or truthorfiction.Com for determining whether information received via email is just that: true/false or fact/fiction. Both are excellent sites.

    Advice from snopes.Com

    1) Any time you see an email that says "forward this on to '10' (or however many) of your friends", "sign this petition", or "you'll get bad luck" or "you'll get good luck" or "you'll see something funny on your screen after you send it" or whatever --- it almost always has an email tracker program attached that tracks the cookies and emails of those folks you forward to. The host sender is getting a copy each time it gets forwarded and then is able to get lists of 'active' email addresses to use in SPAM emails or sell to other Spammers. Even when you get emails that demand you send the email on if you're not ashamed of God/Jesus > --- that is email tracking, and they are playing on our conscience. These people don't care how they get your email addresses - just as long as they get them. Also, emails that talk about a missing child or a child with an incurable disease "how would you feel if that was your child" --- email tracking. Ignore them and don't participate!

    2) Almost all emails that ask you to add your name and forward on to others are similar to that mass letter years ago that asked people to send business cards to the little kid in Florida who wanted to break the Guinness Book of Records for the most cards. All it was, and all any of this type of email is, is a way to get names and 'cookie' tracking information for telemarketers and Spammers -- to validate active email accounts for their own profitable purposes.

    You can do your Friends and Family members a GREAT favor by sending this information to them. You will be providing a service to your friends. And you will be rewarded by not getting thousands of spam emails in the future!

    Do yourself a favor and STOP adding your name(S) to those types of listing regardless how inviting they might sound! Or make you feel guilty if you don't! It's all about getting email addresses and nothing more.

    You may think you are supporting a GREAT cause, but you are NOT!

    Instead, you will be getting tons of junk mail later and very possibly a virus attached! Plus, we are helping the Spammers get rich! Let's not make it easy for them!

    ALSO: Email petitions are NOT acceptable to Congress of any other organization - I.e. Social security, etc. To be acceptable, petitions must have a "SIGNED SIGNATURE" and full address of the person signing the petition, so this is a waste of time and you are just helping the email trackers.

    Tips for Handling Telemarketers

    Three Little Words That Work!!

    (1)The three little words are: 'Hold on Please'
    Saying this, while putting down your phone and walking off (instead of hanging-up immediately) would make each telemarketing call so much more time-consuming that boiler room sales would grind to a halt.

    Then when you eventually hear the phone company's 'beep-beep-beep' tone, you know it's time to go back and hang up your handset, which has efficiently completed its task.

    These three little words will help eliminate telephone soliciting..

    (2) Do you ever get those annoying phone calls with no one on the other end?

    This is a telemarketing technique where a machine makes phone calls and records the time of day when a person answers the phone.

    This technique is used to determine the best time of day for a 'real' sales person to call back and get someone at home.

    What you can do after answering, if you notice there is no one there, is to immediately start hitting your # button on the phone, 6 or 7 times as quickly as possible. This confuses the machine that dialed the call, and it kicks your number out of their system. Gosh, what a shame not to have your name in their system any longer!!!

    (3) Junk Mail Help: *** I just Love all of the following. m.

    When you get 'ads' enclosed with your phone or utility bill, return these 'ads' with your payment. Let the sending companies throw their own junk mail away.

    When you get those 'pre-approved' letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and similar type junk, do not throw away the return envelope.

    Most of these come with postage-paid return envelopes, right? It costs them more than the regular 44 cents postage, 'IF' and when they receive them back.

    It costs them nothing if you throw them away! The postage was around 59 cents before the last increase and it is according to the weight. In that case, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little, postage- paid return envelopes.

    One of Andy Rooney 's (60 minutes) ideas.

    Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Send a pizza coupon to Citibank. If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their blank application back!

    If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them.

    You can even send the envelope back empty if you want to just to keep them guessing! It still costs them 44 cents.
    ^^^^^^^^ I’ve been doing this for years as a lazy means of notifying myself if the mail has come without looking.

    The banks and credit card companies are currently getting a lot of their own junk back in the mail, but folks, we need to OVERWHELM them. Let's let them know what it's like to get lots of junk mail, and best of all they're paying for it... Twice!



    Let's help keep our postal service busy since they are saying that e-mail is cutting into their business profits, and that's why they need to increase postage costs again. You get the idea!

    If enough people follow these tips, it will work I have been doing this for years, and I get very little junk mail anymore.

    THIS JUST MIGHT BE ONE E-MAIL THAT YOU WILL WANT TO FORWARD TO YOUR FRIENDS.

    I also clear email addresses off before forwarding. It really pisses me off when folks are too lazy to do that.
    Also, when you do forward stuff. Copy & paste it to the new email. You can copy and paste the message without EVERYONES email address and you won't look like an lazy idiot when you forward some without all these ">>>" to the left of every freaking line.
    Regards
    Nikki Viljoen

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    Thanks Nikki
    I love the "please hold on" idea.
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    The other option: when they say "Hi, I am XX from YY, how are you?" you reply "Thanks for asking! At last i found someone who cares! My knee, which was bas last week, is MUCH better, but the hip is still giving me pain and discomfort. I still can't eat properly because of the ulcer, and ......... etc ad finitum!" They can't get a word in edgeways!
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    No, Phil, the ones that irritate me are the ones who don't even tell you who they are. Cheerily : "Hello ! How are you ?" And then you're expected to enquire after their health as well. WTF wants to know ?

    The sad thing is that they've obviuosly been trained to do this. Do the people who run call centre training not know any better ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Thanks Nikki
    I love the "please hold on" idea.
    Learnt that one back in the 80's - love it.

    Also, when you get those calls from customer satisfaction survey companies. They want 'just a minute of your time'. I say "Go ahead", and then start counting down from 60 while they talk! Childish, but effective and it really puts them off!!

    I must remember to post some junk back to Sanlam next time....
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndriesH View Post
    Also, when you get those calls from customer satisfaction survey companies. They want 'just a minute of your time'. I say "Go ahead", and then start counting down from 60 while they talk! Childish, but effective and it really puts them off!!
    Where can we get a copy of the sound made on Who wants to be a Millionaire at the end of the 30 seconds for "call a friend"? Keep that on your desktop, and when the "minute" / "moment" / "few seconds" are up, hit play and put down the phone. Maybe with a the clock counting louder and louder.

    Could be good for a laugh a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveSoane View Post
    No, Phil, the ones that irritate me are the ones who don't even tell you who they are. Cheerily : "Hello ! How are you ?" And then you're expected to enquire after their health as well. WTF wants to know ?

    The sad thing is that they've obviuosly been trained to do this. Do the people who run call centre training not know any better ?

    Dave.
    I got one the other day that went, "I saw your webpage and I see that you have a workshop on on Wednesday and I do websites for small businesses so will you please refer me" that was the start of the conversation, no 'hello my name is' nothing!
    Regards
    Nikki Viljoen

    Viljoen Consulting
    083 702 8849
    nikki@viljoenconsulting.co.za
    http://www.viljoenconsulting.co.za
    SKYPE: Nikki.Viljoen

    "If I want your opinion I'll give it to you" or "Lead, follow or get out of the way!"

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    Very cool email but the email tracking bit is simply impossible. Also the original never came from snopes: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/false.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkCorke View Post
    Where can we get a copy of the sound made on Who wants to be a Millionaire at the end of the 30 seconds for "call a friend"? Keep that on your desktop, and when the "minute" / "moment" / "few seconds" are up, hit play and put down the phone. Maybe with a the clock counting louder and louder.

    Could be good for a laugh a few times.
    Would this do?

    clock-ticking-1.mp3


    Set it to repeat in Media Player for the duration of the conversation!
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    Haha.
    Mark Corke
    Suitegum Sells Businesses
    Mergers, Acquisitions, Rescues, Knowledge

    0861 472 472
    083 399 2666
    www.suitegum.co.za

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